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We're about to go into an election season with the exact same systems in place with also you have to remember you have half a country that doesn't believe any of this took place and has no legitimacy. so we're in trouble. >> yes, i think something that was telling when i went to vr systems, the vendor in question. >> they service election software. >> yeah, they service a handful of states including swing states like virginia and north carolina. he when i went to them toe ask about the e-mail, they put me in touch with beak a pr person. there's a lot of face saving going on. that's plane why w...

They're not accountable to voters. >> is there oversight in place from a computer and tech security standpoint to make sure malcolm used the word audit. is there some protocol in place, have states implemented something where they are g to check to make sure the # security on these systems meets some set of standards? >> there is nothing nationally that has been done in a rigorous manner. i think a lot of this is left to the states and the individual counties to do their best on a county by county basis. but that's clearly lacking because we still don't have answers in june, 2018. >> there's a...

Voters. >> is there oversight in place from a computer and tech security standpoint to make sure malcolm used the word audit. is there some protocol in place, have states implemented something to make sure the security on these systems meets some set of standards? >> there is nothing nationally done in a rigorous manner. i think a lot of this is left to the states and the individual counties to do their best on a county by county basis. but that's clearly lacking because we still don't have answers in june, 2018. >> there's also malcolm, it seems to me the vulnerabilities are pretty obvious ju...