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The hardware story, who come up and say how grateful they are to have health insurance, at least for their kids. i still run into people all over the country who grew up in that generation, a whole generation now of kids in vermont have universal health care. you know, business people are not crazy. they are not these right-wing lunatics. they get smart economics. and smart economics, as senator van de putte has said, is getting jobs into your state. i find it ironic governor perry is running around saying, get jobs into texas, this is a guy who just turned down 200,000 jobs. >> and billions o...

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Governor 20 years ago. we expanded medicaid, up to 300% of poverty, made it a middle class entitlement program. i still run into people today in the hardware story, who come up and say how grateful they are to have health insurance, at least for their kids. i still run into people all over the country who grew up in that generation, a whole generation now of kids in vermont have universal health care. you know, business people are not crazy. they are not these right-wing lunatics. they get smart economics. and smart economics, as senator van de putte has said, is getting jobs into your state. ...

Resulting in a fiscal crisis. our roads are crumbling, our infrastructure is down, he shorted education. this is chris christie's playbook. it's just catching up with him now. >> there was also the issue that you had a sort of independent, technocratic guy who was part of the legislature -- >> dr. kevorkian. >> he basically said, look, you're projecting these very optimistic, rosy scenarios about low employment, high growth, and he took hatchet to the guy, killed him. and now he's got the shortfall. >> absolutely. so the governor, when you don't agree with the governor, when you show facts to ...

His gross estimates led to this huge budget shortfall. the fact that he hasn't actually looked at revenue and really trying to seek real revenue coming into the state is just resulting in a fiscal crisis. our roads are crumbling, our infrastructure is down, he shorted education. this is chris christie's playbook. it's just catching up with him now. >> there was also the issue that you had a sort of independent, technocratic guy who was part of the legislature -- >> dr. kevorkian. >> he basically said, look, you're projecting these very optimistic, rosy scenarios about low employment, high grow...