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No. dave. >> the president is using jared ku kushner for this new position. jared kushner has never had a government job. does the president look at that as a positive thing? >> i think he does. one of the things that jared is looking at as some of the procurement, the technology aspects, and if you've ever really dealt with the government and recognized how outdated and unmodernized some of this is, it is not serving the american people, it is not serving some of the different constituents that america has. as we look at different things and how we perform technology is an important way -- i ...

Primaries and caucuses like the republicans. they are focused on winning that -- the elections on election day. >> mike: four years ago it was insurgent campaign most people weren't taking barack obama that seriously. it looked like hillary clinton was the default candidate. it was only later that it really became a race. so, this time what you are saying is this is maybe the difference between the start-up of just a group of kids in facebook and full blown microsoft? >> no. i think that's an accurate comparison especially when you mention the technology aspects. they are focused on technology...

One day. that's election day 2012. they don't have to worry about primaries and caucuses like the republicans. they are focused on winning that -- the elections on election day. >> mike: four years ago it was insurgent campaign most people weren't taking barack obama that seriously. it looked like hillary clinton was the default candidate. it was only later that it really became a race. so, this time what you are saying is this is maybe the difference between the start-up of just a group of kids in facebook and full blown microsoft? >> no. i think that's an accurate comparison especially when ...

That's election day 2012. they don't have to worry about primaries and caucuses like the republicans. they are focused on winning that -- the elections on election day. >> mike: four years ago it was insurgent campaign most people weren't taking barack obama that seriously. it looked like hillary clinton was the default candidate. it was only later that it really became a race. so, this time what you are saying is this is maybe the difference between the start-up of just a group of kids in facebook and full blown microsoft? >> no. i think that's an accurate comparison especially when you menti...