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Has more insight in it than i do. what do they mean by a large down payment for the wall? that's where republicans are as these conversations continue to commence. not necessarily what the number is going to be but whether the white house will back down entirely. i can't stress enough, when you talk to democrats in the wake of those failed votes they continually point to the fact that the president's plan got fewer votes than the democratic plan. the president's prerogatives don't carry water in the senate. according thaides at this pointn time feel like they have no incentive to give right no...

House, vote for some sort of temporary spending bill that would reopen the government for the next two or three weeks if it included a few hundred million dollars for a border wall? >> absolutely not. the principle at stake is that we cannot allow donald trump to use the harm of a government shutdown as a negotiating tactic. we cannot allow any party or any person to take our federal government as a hostage and extract a ransom. we will not pay that. one-eighth funding for a wall. this is about principle. you can't put people's suffering and use that as negotiating tactic. >> the president, yo...

Package. that has been the hold-up, up to this point. that question still hasn't been answered and how this turns out over the next couple of hours, over the course of the proposals being traded on capitol hill will decide whether or not the shutdown continues for 35, 36, 37th day or whether there might be week of action. >> he says a three-week temporary proposal to keep the government open for three weeks, in lynndindh lindsey graham's s as long as there's down payment for a wall. that's a little different than what sarah sanders at the white house said. there's got to be a large down paymen...

Rest. credit rating goes down, the vulnerability of your security clearance goes down -- is increased. so, it is harmful to our veterans to be doing this. it's important for everyone to know how they are affected. veterans have donned the uniform of our country to protect us and carry on their commitment to public service, in the public sector as federal employees in some ways still continuing to protect us. in other ways, meeting our needs in another way. all of them affected by the shutdown. or like lily from georgia, who says food stamp recipients will go hungry. state and local services wi...

Security. not what the president wants but at least a potential negotiating starting point right now. >> it's interesting, chris. the white house press secretary, sarah sanders, originally said the president will accept a temporary three-week deal if there is what she called a large down payment on the wall. the president then said he needs a pro-rated down payment. explain what's going on. >> i don't think he knows what's going on. i don't know what pro-rated down payment means. and backstep, i also don't know -- i know what the word large and down payment mean but what does large down paymen...