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media. the suspect only 21 years old, was a member of the massachusetts national guard's 10 2nd intelligence wing. fallout over the leak is continuing as many of the shared documents -- assuming they are legitimate -- reveal the depth that u.s. intelligence had penetrated russia's military. other documents contained the troop movements of russian soldiers. the leak's impact is far reaching and will, no doubt, damage u.s. interests and has immediate implications percent war in ukraine. let's bring in retired four-star general jack keane, he's chairman of the institute for the study of...

It's, you know, either you with unplug the thing or, more importantly, you put in a safe word, right? like open the pod bay coors, hal, or bosco, or something that will urn the computer off. and, you know, we have that, you hit control, aht -- alt the, delete on your pc. if you start the micromanaging the development of this, you know, fascinating new technology, you're going to kill it or you're going to move it, and someone in a bean bag chair like sam bankman-fried, a future sam bankman-fried in bermuda will do it or worse, in china. so you've got to be careful when you start regulating -- ...

Stuff that we're seeing now. >> carol, a second machine age and google right at the center of it, buying up these companies, really, really writing the checks and getting behind this. >> i was mesmerized by that thing in the woods. i could never do the weather, that thing in the woods. what could you use that thing for in. >> all of the different kinds of things, how about loading trucks, how about moving things from one part of a warehouse to another. you've got people in the robotics field who are saying why are we still stocking shelves? just amazon talking about drone delivery, google alre...

Didn't have and they were benting the cost curve on health care, that's a good thing for the american people. the mistake was we should have acknowledged this would be a long-term roll out. this is a comprehensive overhaul of a system that will take time. we shouldn't have set the benchmarks to say by this date or that date. it doesn't work that way. >> it was a mistake to say that date being tomorrow that the problems will be fixed some. >> yeah, i mean i think people who are really technology gurus recognize that it's really hard to give fixed dates like that. instead set expectations that s...