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Quite wise given what the political science literature says about the president polarizing himself into and it the poll we showed on immigration. shouldn't he stay away from this and let them work the deal out in the senate if he wants this passed? >> there are two tracks. congress has to be working on this which they are. senate is working on their primary work, congress is working on the different pieces of legislation that they would like to see. the president has to be at -- a part of this. i was telling you, president bush was a huge part of it trying to make this pass and it still didn't...

State of the union how the minimum wage is key to economic involve i have so true because these are the jobs that more and more americans are spending there. if we want to build the -- if we want to grow the middle class, grow the middle class, if we want to just make sure the workers survive, we need to figure out a way to raise job standards in these industry. >> to your point before we left on the break he said democrats don't want to do tin decksing because it is a great political issue for them. everybody was caught by surprise when the president brought it up in the state of the union. >...

Also -- >> isn't bipartisanship a dream of the 'minutes at this point? we have not seen very much of that in this congress at all. no matter what the president says, they are going to oppose him. >> you have a senate right now who bipartisan framework, it is -- already out there. if the president could start getting behind it and actually start doing internal things. we had weekly meet wings coalition groups, bipartisanship, to bring people together. that's not happening now. >> did you keep saying this is the thing we did the last time we had a colossal failure in trying to get the bill passe...

>> this is an issue i feel strongly about. i work order this in 2006 and 2007 when we tried to pass immigration reform. disappointed to your point, though, about two minutes and over an hour speech and touched immigration reform. even though he campaigned heavily in 2008 on this issue and, again, in 2012 on this issue. to us it was very disappointing. >> wait. even in doing the right thing -- because if that's the polling, the more he talks about it the more he imperils it. that -- i really -- genuinely believe that's the case. >> if you love something set it free. >> i think he can talk about...

Like 15-1. it is extremely expensive. it is like $13,000 a student. 20% higher than the k-12 national average. this is a big deal in terms of the expense of going universal. but the -- thing i would argue is the most for piece about it is it is one of the country's biggest school choice programs. it is a state pay and parent chosen and mixed delivery system with sort of private community based providers. and -- districts competing against one another. and anything in sort -- expansion, like for a focus on low-income kids, where i think it should be, if you are not delivering this in a way that...