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I want to play you something that stew a varny said on "fox and friends" that seems to me like -- you know, the kind of rhetoric you might expect in reaction to this from conservatives. there is famous case in 1971 of walter mondale proposing something that looked like universal pre-k. it met with a real backlash, very conservative religious backlash against incursions into what's the domestic sphere. wane goat your thoughts whether this is the kind of thing you expect to hear from the republican party about this proposal. >> look what the president is doing here. it is a repeat perfect form a...

>> just going back to the minimum wage versus the itc. it doesn't -- itc does some good things. lot of good things. one of the things it does is by increasing labor supply, which is a good thing, ends up pushing down wages. some of the wage increases, wage decreases, mean that the itc public spending getting captured by low wage employers. minimum wage stops that. there is a lot of -- >> in tandem. >> by david newmark, meeting critics of the minimum wage finded in the most recent work the minimum wage actually complements the itc. look at their work, not advertise. not advertise. but -- exactl...

Economists say the efficient thing do, milton friedman model, right, negative income tax credit. that's an efficient way -- rather than the government coming in machine dating wages, right just having an efficient transfer. what i think is so interesting if you look at hose two, you get -- it zeros in on what we mean by big government and what our opposition to big government is. at a certain level mandating a wage, right, is a heavy handed use of the state's power but it doesn't cost the government a dime. the earned income tax credit is an efficient transfer from economics 101 but actually c...

>> it is tough to be -- be against pre-k. >> that's the idea. minimum waging and pre-k, let's do it, america. >> you raised a good point which is -- on education, sort of generally like it is one of the rare areas where there seems to be some consensus between republicans and democrats and that kind of thing. new jersey is sort of -- very far down the road and in terms of implementing a high-quality pre-k experience for 3 and 4-year-olds a 4-year-old. extraordinarily epic k-12 public school spending. to your point the definition of high quality there at least it is worth looking at. there are ...

All 4-year-olds. >> study after study shows that the earlier a child begins learning, the better he or she does down the road. here tees thing. we are not doing enough to give all of our kids that chance. in states like georgia that made it a priority to educate our youngest children, states like oklahoma, students don't just show up in kindergarten, first grade more prepared to learn, they are also more likely to grow up reading and doing math at grade level, graduating from high school, holding a job, and even forming more stable families. >> stud vees shown we-- the learning skills the more...