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Is it to cut that threshold down to say $450,000 or somewhere around in there where the president can say, okay, it doesn't raise as much revenue but it's more fair than what we got? >> i think that's part of it, chris, and i really think, and you and i have talked about this before, that for a lot of my conservative friends and myself included is, you know, what does the other side give? what are the spending cuts, real spending cuts, substantive spending cuts that are going to make a difference. you didn't lose sight of this as part of this deal. it goes to what you were talking about with c...

Had discretionary spending increases. you know, the budget of this country this year is twice what it was 11 years ago, and a good portion of that is discretionary. some of it, $100 billion a year is the war, but the rest of the government has grown. so we have to do both. and we have to make sure that whatever we do does not hurt us but gets us on the way to recovery. >> let me get to joe klein on the politics of this. my contention is unless the liberal caucus led by nancy pelosi, a huge majority of democrats who are hard core liberals, unless they see teeth marks in the neck of eric cantor ...

Whatever we do does not hurt us but gets us on the way to recovery. >> let me get to joe klein on the politicings of this. my contention is unless the liberal caucus led by nancy pelosi, a huge majority of democrats who are hard core lib ralts, unless they see teeth marks in the neck of eric cantor and boehner, unless they see the president has really gone in there and raised taxes on the rich, done something significant, maybe not the 39.6% but something that clearly bothers those people, she's not giving anything from her end. you've got to be tough on the tax front if you're going to get an...

Like a little child. >> another kayaker on the west coast had a much closer encounter with an even bigger shark this weekend. look what the shark did to the bottom of his kayak in santa cruz, california. 15-foot long great white bit into the hull. you can see the teeth marks. the shark left behind fragments. he wasn't hurt. both beaches in santa cruz and or leans are open today. swimmers are being told to watch out for seals, not sharks. experts say the sharks are hunting seals, not people. even so, it makesvationers nervous. >> the thought of a shark coming near me up in the water is freaky. ...

Look what the shark did to the bottom of his kayak in santa cruz, california. 15-foot long great white built into the hull. you can see the teeth marks. the shark even left behind tooth fragments. the kayaker wasn't hurt. his friends pulled him to safety. both peach beaches are open today, but swimmers are told to watch out for seals, not sharks. they need to stay away from sharks. experts say the sharks are hunting seals, not people. even so, it makes vacationers nervous. >> the thought of a shark coming near me up in the water is a pretty freaky. >> makes you think twice about jumping up the...