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President to wake up and suddenly it seems like without any preamble or public discussion, to say that they're going to be kicked out of the military? >> well, anderson, it sounds to me like he was having this discussion with his military advisers. i don't know. but that's certainly the way it sounds to me. >> no one will say where the discussion was. it seems like before heads of each branch of the military were caught offguard. >> anderson, i don't know. let me just say this. i hate to disappointment my friend christine. but on a scale of -- >> it's a low bar, jeffrey, low bar. >> when you t...

families being notified today, receiving the sad news. one was a uh 1 helicopter, one an ah 1 w helicopter. very routine training exercise by all accounts and sadly a mid-air collision killing all seven marines on board both heel lows overnight. >> we will follow all of the breaking details that we get from you, barbara, and also the investigation now taking place. barbara starr at the pentagon, thanks. >> sure. look, it's no surprise when you reach the top, you get a target on your back. and poll surging rick santorum found that out last night at cnn's debate in arizona. >> while ...