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Secondhand information. they didn't talk to donald trump directly, they didn't participate in the events or testify about it directly. and yet they're holding up all the direct participants and not letting them testify. does it surprise you that the response of the house committee has not been to simply subpoena and order the direct participants to testify, or do you think it's smarter to say their not testifying just becomes another article of impeachment? >> we have, of course, the president's own admission of wrongdoing. we have the telephone transcript in the president's own words. we have...

Participants to testify, or do you think it's smarter to say they' their not testifying just becomes another article of impeachment? >> we have, of course, the president's own admission of wrongdoing. we have the telephone transcript in the president's own words. we have the whistle-blower report that details the elaborate scheme. all of that has been corroborated by witnesses. we're going to hear additional witnesses who have direct knowledge of conversations. lieutenant colonel vindman who listed in on the call, a number of people who wrote text messages and e-mails. there's overwhelming evi...

Political opponents. and, you know, the president admitted that on camera. he released a telephone transcript, a report of that that confirms it. and there's of course the whistle-blower report that details the scheme in its entirety. but we have subsequently heard from a number of witnesses now who have corroborated the essential parts of this scheme. so the whistle-blower's identity is really irrelevant. it was to point to the misconduct of the president. the president's admitted it. the transcript of the phone call corroborates it, and we've heard of a number of witnesses filling in the pie...

Substance of the evidence, that is president attempting to interfere in a presidential election, holding out military assistance as leverage to try to get him to gin up a false investigation against one of his political opponents. and, you know, the president admitted that on camera. he released a telephone transcript, a report of that that confirms it. and there's of course the whistle-blower report that details the scheme in its entirety. but we have suksquently heard from a number of witnesses now who have corroborated the essential parts of this scheme. so the whistle-blower's identity is ...

Light eva peron that we are going to conduct a formal impeachment. which they really are conducting not a formal impeachment but trying to pick their topics to focus on. she had to have known about the complaints because schiff knew about the complaint from a staffer by then. she had to know the h complaint. they thought they had the president of the united states with the secondhand cia operative democrat with connections to biden complaint. but then the president says you know what, i'm going to release this thing. he t releases the telephone transcript after conferring with the president of...