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himself will be investigated by kevin mccarthy as we reported earlier. all the justice department people and i've been speaking to from a book i've been working on saying that have been incredibly careful, and they would only act if they had crystal clear evidence. this is gonna be perceived as political by half of the country so it's a monumental development and we'll see if their evidence holds up in court, but it's just a shocking series of events tonight. >> given what's going on at the u.s. justice department now. we are blessed that david rohde, pulitzer prize reporter and exec...

this is an incredibly serious step. i believe the merrick garland approve this himself, he will be investigated by kevin mccarthy, as you said earlier. we are in a very new and dangerous stage. but all the justice department people that i've been speaking to for a book that i'm working on, say they're being incredibly careful. that they would only act if there is crystal clear evidence, they don't to be political. this will be perceived as political by half the country, so it's a monumental development, and we'll see if the evidence holds up in court. it's just a shocking series of e...

Made reference directly to watergate and that he may have made some mistakes in judgment but they were all in what he thought in the interest of the united states and its people. that was his only reference to per potential culpability. he did appeal to conciliation in a 60 minute speech. >> and joining us now is nbc news princes that shull historian michael wash. also back with us is neal katyal nbc legal analyst. michael, those of us who were around all remember where they were when we watch that moment on television. and just for the television record, the speech was at 9 pm. that walter cr...