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That the feds want to impose upon them in terms of protecting from an emp or cyber, even the tree branch threat. great northeast blackout was caused by a tree branch that contacted a power line in 2003 and put 50,000 americans in the dark. it took foot dragging before they improved security against the country. mark: they want to spend a trillion and a half on infrastructure. >> you are reading my mind. mark: and we haven't talked about. this let's put two or three billion dollars aside for this? >> exactly, that's one of the emp commission's recommendations in the reports that we've put forwa...

Feds want to impose upon them in terms of protecting from emp or cyber, even the tree branch threat. the great northeast blackout contacted a power line in 2003 and put 50 million americans in the dark. took a decade of foot dragging before they allegedly did something to improve our security. mark: if the federal government said this is part of infrastructure, wants to spend a tril and a half on infrastructure. >> you are reading my mind. mark: we haven't talked about this. said let's put two or three billion aside for this? >> exactly. that's one of the emp recommendations in the reports tha...

Feds want to impose upon them in terms of protecting from emp or cyber, even the tree branch threat. the great northeast blackout contacted a power line in 2003 and put 50 million americans in the dark. took a decade of foot dragging before they allegedly did something to improve our security. mark: if the federal government said this is part of infrastructure, wants to spend a tril and a half on infrastructure. >> you are reading my mind. mark: we haven't talked about this. said let's put two or three billion aside for this? >> exactly. that's one of the emp recommendations in the reports tha...

Feds want to impose upon them in terms of protecting from emp or cyber, even the tree branch threat. the great northeast blackout contacted a power line in 2003 and put 50 million americans in the dark. took a decade of foot dragging before they allegedly did something to improve our security. mark: if the federal government said this is part of infrastructure, wants to spend a tril and a half on infrastructure. >> you are reading my mind. mark: we haven't talked about this. said let's put two or three billion aside for this? >> exactly. that's one of the emp recommendations in the reports tha...

And so they are, in a sense, dependent on the civilian grid for their ability to effect their mission here in the united states. but ultimately -- >> but, congressman, doesn't that make it even more frightening that the military is dependent on this same grid? >> well, it frightens me greatly. the military is hardened where we are on the civilian side are not and that's what the shield attempts to -- and the protection act has now been assigned to the homeland security committee, and i've been assured that's going to get a hearing, and i have great hope and belief that it's going to pass. >> a...