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I've been in detention centers where they let you in to talk to someone. they're hiding this. they know it's wrong. any american who thinks about it for a second knows it's wrong to put kids in tent jails in the desert for no reason other than a political ploy. >> thanks, cal. >> it's not just us not getting access to the camp -- go ahead. >> i want to go to jonathan ryan on this, because you've been working in the region on this for many years. what we just heard from the counselor there about they're deliberately hiding these kids. is that a fair representation of what's happening there? >> ...

These kids will end up there just because it is a matter of resources. >> mayor, they're hiding these kids. i've been to detention centers just outside of austin where they hold these kids and they let you talk to them. they're hiding this. they know it is wrong. any american that thinks about it for a second knows it is wrong for us to put kids in tent jails in the desert for no reason other than a political ploy. >> that's actually a city council member from austin, texas. julia, get to our big question which is how are the kids already separated going to be reunited? it's almost been 24 hou...

And i'm a little disturbed. civil disobedience they keep it up they will end up in our jails. >> there was some issue whether the jails could hold all of the people that if the law had not been lifted or enjoined. you were going to do outdoor jails. pretty hot in arizona at it's been around the country. how is that going to work? tent jails? >> andrea, i put up tents, korean war tents in 1993. 1993. 17 years we've been doing it. i just extended an area of the tents for those that would have been arrested under that new law but that's on hold but i still have 200 illegal aliens in our tents any...

City, the trump administration is secretly moving kids around, some 239 of them, the mayors of los angeles and miami were also here. they marched on this compound behind me. they got to the gate, there was a back and forth with a member of homeland security police, they asked to get in, they were rejected entry. they were told they had to apply, and that application process could take two weeks. after a back and forth, that gate was shut and they were asked to leave for their own safety. a counselman from austin, i want to play what he said to me to give you an idea of how angry people are. >>...