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>> now you flipped it. we are talking public universities. not talking private. >> a lot of colleges i know, they have campus bars. >> they don't in texas. we're talking about texas. >> so you would bring them, let them play -- how about kids that play football, could they carry during the game or what? not during the game? >> actually the law does not allow currently and this would not change it. for athletic contests, not permitted. >> allowed to take it to the contest? >> no. >> can't take it to the contest, can't take it to any kind of bar scenario, but you can walk around campus. >> that'...

Universities. >> where i went to college, and a lot of which colleges i know have campus bar. they don't in texas. they don't in texas. we're talking about texas. >> but you would let -- how about kids that want to play football? can they carry a game or what? not during the game. >> no, actually the law does not allow, and currently this law would not change it, for athletic contests they're not permitted. >> but you would be allowed to take it to the contest or -- >> no. >> you can't take it to any kind of bar scene or anything like that? >> okay. >> now we've got this straight. let's go to ...

That? >> okay. >> now we've got this straight. let's go to kyle with the other appointed of view. what's your view? >> what the senator fails to mention, in texas public schools there are hospitals, there are daycare centers, what about a judicial referral or a tenure hearing? these are places you're allowed to bring a gun. unfortunately people who support this idea have a very narrow focus on the problem. they look at it as, hey, someone's about to shoot you, do you want a gun or not? when you look at it like that, you miss the ideas and concepts of the fact that 93% of student violence victi...

To sort of check in. first, in general, by most part most of the people were pretty knowledgeable. they had done their homework and the president, it was to actually the smartest guy in the room, but it struck me like a tenure hearing than maybe a political debate that was going nonthere. you know, i think thatte erick makes a point that senator alexander and senator coburn did great, and if they had left them, the republicans got off to a great start, but it deteriorated after that, and i thought that the president, you know, the strong one to close. but overall, i think that if you could sit...