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Fallen agents in the fbi. >> by 2011 he served a decade opt job under two presidents. republican and democrat. by law his term as director was about to expire. >> you cannot stay longer than ten years. it's not something at the discretion of the president. it's a ten year term. that's it. we were having trouble finding anybody up to his standard. we were. so we started thinking about what do we do. >> he came into the morning meeting with his ten most senior executives in the organization and said very casually that the president of the united states is asked me to stay two more years and i ac...

He then served as governor of colorado from 2011 to 2018 when he reached his term limit. on monday of this week he became one of the contenders by officially announcing his candidacy for presidency. and we are glad to have governor hickenlooper joining us tonight in his first interview as a contender on msnbc. here at "the last word." governor, thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> you bet. thank you, lawrence. i appreciate being on. >> one of the policies that i've implemented for my presidential candidate interviews is to discuss nothing but policy. i don't car...

Way, but money is not the issue here. i think it's the values of are we a country that puts a wall between ourselves and an allied nation or do we use smart security measures? increased border patrol agents, increased enforcement of overstay of visas, increased use of technology, and yes, fencing where there are fuvulnerabiliti, but a structural wall that mexico is not going to pay for, that's not going to happen. >> you don't see a fence as quote/unquote immoral. >> a wall is an immoral symbol for our country. >> term limits. interesting proposal, bipartisan proposal by ted cruz and also repu...

Campaigns and independent redistricting. >> that's a no. that's a no. >> i would beat a 40-year incumbent in my own party because california passed independent redistricting and an open primary where any voter could vote for any candidate from any party, and i think that is a better reform, and i beat someone who had just kind of been elected without any challenges. so get rid of dirty maps and dirty money. that's the best term limit. >> two more quick ones. 2020, elizabeth warren, her hat officially now in the ring on the democratic side. you have not ruled out a run for president in 2020. wa...

This time more opposition. she will be having a term limit where this will end for her in 2021. she's got a lot to get done. she says she wants to improve border security, however she refuses to have any wall funding be a part of that package. that is something that they'll have to try to hammer out in order to reopen the partially-closed government. she will be giving a speech in just a moment and then back to business. the house at this point has many issues on its plate. i want to talk to you about the investigations that they plan on ensuing. recently she appeared on "the today show" sayin...