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For a state of the union address in less than two weeks, a big opportunity to set the table for the mid terms elections, they're recognizing as they want to talk about the president's accomplishments, covid relief laws and infrastructure laws, that your finding voters aren't really receptive to hearing him talk about those accomplishments until and when he provides clarity that he understands what americans are going through. so you've begun to hear that from the president in recent public events. just last week he was doing a similar event to the one today in a swing district in virginia. the...

What is motivating them to come out? >> i think with hillary clinton not winning the election and president trump taking his role, i think democrats were motivated to come out especially people in college realize they have a civic duty to make this country what it's supposed to be. this is the year for them. even if it's not a major election, these elections make decisions for our congress. >> people assume that most young people are liberal. do you find that to be the case here at perdue? >> not at all. there's plenty of conservatives i've had the pleasure of working with. i would say the mai...

Looking forward to november, i would recommend it is clear, you must, if you are a republican candidate, have you got to hug the president for one reason and one reason alone and that's because the president has uncanny ability to generate base turnout. that's what these mid terms elections are all about. there are two things these candidates have to do. hug president trump because he will help turn out your base and, two, run on the trump agenda. that's how you get those swing voters because his agenda is incredibly popular as well. brian: right. and the economy going well, not necessarily a ...

This. why isn't the president overruling john kelly? >> well, maybe he will. i think here is the problem. you are the president of the united states. you are dealing with north korea. you want to denuclearize north korea. you are working on policy that leads to economic growth. >> he has a lot on his plate but he can stop it with a phone call. >> i think it is coming into his focus now. i think it is inside his cross hairs now. he is just back from a historic trip. you will see de-nuclearization of north korea. the economy is booming. don't let this be a distraction going into the mid terms el...

Partisanship, stupidity, et cetera, et cetera, on solving important questions and the government doesn't seem to work. partisanship is hurting us. i don't know if kasich is the guy to do it. is he certainly right, if he were to run as an independent. if he were to bull moose trump and teddy roosevelt him and run, there would certainly be some energy in that space. >> martha: it's not hard to imagine we talk about the divisiveness. it feels, this time in a lot of ways that there could be a legitimate third party candidate. >> we are seeing it now in mid terms elections. independent governor in ...