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Raids, try to do the best to get a layout of what a similar apartment might look like. there never really going in blind. on the downside, the perp definitely has some mastery of the terrain features. he's in the building, so he's obviously going to know better with the inside of the building looks like. the problem there is you run into things called fatal funnels. in other words, when the officers come in, there is usually only one way to enter an apartment, where the bad guy can obviously funnel his attention. if you understand what i mean. the police officers don't have that luxury, and it...

They're never really going in blind. on the downside, the perp definitely has some mastery of the terrain features. he's in the building right now, so he's obviously going to know better what the inside of the building looks like. the problem there is you run into things called fatal funnels. in other words, when the officers come in, there is usually only one way to enter an apartment, where the bad guy can obviously funnel his attention. if you understand what i mean. the police officers don't have that luxury, and it just goes to show you again, jesse, can't say it enough on the network, ho...

These are not conditions we are dealing with even yesterday. the terrain features change by the hour in that region. secondly, they took the strongest swimmers and the strongest boys first. which makes sense. let's get -- let's make sure we get the strongest ones out first. keep the mental status of the people left behind. you don't want a failure right away. it would be devastating. now they have to deal with the weakest boys to get them out last. so, yeah, it does get more dangerous and that's why, you know, i know we say thoughts and prayers a lot and it irritates a lot of people on the lef...

But we are all there for each other and cuddled up together holding hands. >> tucker: what a horrifying experience you have lived through. rebecca bogart, thank you for sharing that with us. >> thank you. >> tucker: dan bongino, a former nypd officer and secret service agent, joining us from florida. dan, what do we know about this? >> it appears that this student had some knowledge of the school being a former student there. probably allowing them to take advantage of the terrain features. involved in an attack like this, as horrific as it is, the ability to know what is around the next corne...

Quiet on the phone. so herbie and calm kept us all calm. but we are all there for each other and cuddled up together holding hands. >> tucker: what a horrifying experience you have lived through. rebecca bogart, thank you for sharing that with us. >> thank you. >> tucker: a former nypd officer and secret service agent, joining us from florida. dan, what do we know about this? >> it appears that this student had some knowledge of the school being a former student there. probably allowing them to take advantage of the terrain features. involved in an attack like this, as horrific as it is, the a...