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Refugees when we have had no examples, none, not one of a syrian refugee engaged in terrorism in the united states. and the third point, and i think this is one that is going to haunt us for a long time, was the suggestion by the president that somehow we're going to favor christians, and in some cases banning muslims in the future. that is exactly the opposite message we need to send to our allies and and to those who, frankly, want to do us harm around the world. chris: but, senator, the president points -- and there's no question, as kellyanne conway pointed out, there have been some mess-u...

Be including this ban on syrian refugees when we have had no examples, none, not one of a syrian refugee engaged in terrorism in the united states. and the third point, and i think this is one that is going to haunt us for a long time, was the suggestion by the president that somehow we're going to favor christians, and in some cases banning muslims in the future. that is exactly the opposite message we need to send to our allies and and to those who, frankly, want to do us harm around the world. chris: but, senator, the president points -- and there's no question, as kellyanne conway pointed ...

Be including this ban on syrian refugees when we have had no examples, none, not one of a syrian refugee engaged in terrorism in the united states. and the third point, and i think this is one that is going to haunt us for a long time, was the suggestion by the president that somehow we're going to favor christians, and in some cases banning muslims in the future. that is exactly the opposite message we need to send to our allies and and to those who, frankly, want to do us harm around the world. chris: but, senator, the president points -- and there's no question, as kellyanne conway pointed ...

Clarify to your point the position of the administration which the reporters were trying to get to yesterday. it also gives them an opportunity, joe, to talk about how the global community needs to be better coordinated to avoid the kind of gaps in information gathering and gaps in intelligence gathering that allows them to fall behind what the terrorists are doing. puts them in a position where the idea of a muslim ban or extreme vetting is less the target of those who would be opposed to it and focus is more on how do we globally together work to avoid this from happening in the future. >> t...

Well, we don't know all the facts and he's getting out in front of the facts. on the other hand, based on the patterns we've seen before, you know, his statements would fall into the fact pattern that we've seen in past incidents like this and people could applaud him for his frankness here. >> and it may very well end up being what he said. but the problem is, all of those other tweets and statements where he sort of jumped the gun, he was in a campaign. a campaign is very different than actually governing as the commander in chief and leader of the free world. and this is a difference, i thi...