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Burn in the face of a recession nap is n . that is not the answer. >> let me ask you, chris will scream at me, what does steven think about the acts of terror in russia? have you two talked about that? >> we talk about it all the time. our first instinct is always ask if our friends are okay. our second is that putin and his policy toward dealing putin and his policy toward dealing with this region have failed and they need to find new policies, but the terror acts continue and i think it leads to real question in putin's leadership and the whole battle to have a more liberal policy in that co...

Fulcrum in the entire campaign and election. in other words, the argument has to be this is directly an act of war, okay, even though it's in yemen, there's an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm which there may nobody the and to issue a kill order as opposed to reasonably considering the alternative argument which is if he's committing criminal terror acts, then arrest him and charge him with terrorism. jon: fred, the government is going after this u.s. citizen saying it's okay to capture him or kill him if necessary, anywhere you find him. if the government can say that about anw...

>> a lot of your colleagues opinioned out the most heinous terror acts against americans have been perpetrated by muslims, so maybe there was something to what carson was saying. >> there's something to radical islamic terrorism. you have on your desk, the chenys new book. does a terrific job. there is a pernicious theology and philosophy, jihaddism that views the extreme dictates of sharia as a mandate to forcibly convert or murder nobody disagrees and we need to take that on in every manifestation. >> understand. as we're talking -- i didn't mean to give you a slight -- we're hearing that go...

Pakistan, osama bin laden was captured and killed on sunday by u.s. forces. the compound which bin laden called home for maybe up to six years. abbottabad. also home to pakistani military academy. and army base. pakistani officials claim they didn't know where bin laden was. and were not involved in the missions. that did not sit well with the locals here. >> i think -- [ inaudible ] >> the things they say he did, terror acts? >> this is what you guys think. >> disagree. >> saying getting rid of a perp would help get rid of pakistanis through terror might not be so bad. >> the people of the wo...

It's here or not, i don't know, but i think in islamabad, it was. >> i'm sad for him. >> you're sad for him. you didn't know the guy but the things they say he did, the terror acts? >> this is what you guys think. >> the people of the world -- i can say the whole world , it's relief. >> relief? >> yes. >> reporter: that last quote, bill, is very important, too. there are a lot of people in pakistan revolted by the terrorism happening here and throughout the world, and it is those people that actually applauded the acts of the u.s. navy seals over the last 4048-72 hours, bill. bill: it is remar...