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Department has begun the process of trying to, in the case of hu, narrow the scope of the order and in the case of maryland, trying to appeal be it and hoping to perform better in the 4th circuit in virginia. rick: well, the president has insisted all along his goal has been to protect america from potential terrorists who might not be properly vetted on their way out of those six countries, but those gates still have not closed, so presumably those people still could be coming in. >> right. and, you know, let's look at some of the numberses here. i mean, we though for a fact thanks to the sen...

Interpreted in many, many places. >> bill, you have to look at islam. it's not up to us to decide what islam is the islamic world is run by the islamist who believe in the global documentation of islam and the supremacy of cherie a. >> the king of morocco doesn't believe that he doesn't believe that. >> he and king abdullah of jordan how keep invoking if they're truly on our side. they should not be as sensitive as you and so]x other people are saying we can't say this, we can't say that they understand that we need to take actions in this war and if they don't understand that, then they are n...

Possibility in this case, bill. >> okay. we might tell the audience that if it's a local beef. just people in san bernadino, committing murder that's not a federal crime. all right. so the feds don't get involved. there is no bias activity here as far as we can tell. so the fact that the fbi los angeles office is almost taking the lead here, he didn't want to embarrass the police chief by speaking first, shows us that there is an avenue of investigation that contains a terror component. now, when you say catherine that it's a u.s. citizen. as you know the george washington university study jus...

To mention his name. >> the more we know the better. >> yeah, obviously you want to know the motive for these terrible things. >> do we have any time for a second quick point? >> yeah. >> okay, let's too many that this killer was not this guy but his name was abdul mohammed ahmed, everybody would be mentioning his name. >> but that is a terror component. >> yes, that is what i said, they would justify it by saying wait a second, he is a terrorist. he is not a run-of-the-mill mass killer. but if mr. ahmed mohammed or whatever his name would be, asked the people, the innocent victim, by the way,...

Why do you believe they were in danger? some people don't. >> well, we have been monitoring human rights conditions in libya for many, many years. i think we have issued more publications, more research, nor analysis on the human rights conditions on libya than just about anyone else. we are aware of the very, very serious situation on the ground. libyans government is one of the most repressive in the world. there are no freedoms whatsoever really. and we have seen the government use a very harsh hand against those who come up against it or criticize it. they are disappearances, torture, exec...