why do you believe they were in danger? some people don't. >> well, we have been monitoring human rights conditions in libya for many, many years. i think we have issued more publications, more research, nor analysis on the human rights conditions on libya than just about anyone else. we are aware of the very, very serious situation on the ground. libyans government is one of the most repressive in the world. there are no freedoms whatsoever really. and we have seen the government use a very harsh hand against those who come up against it or criticize it. they are disappearances, torture, execution, arbitrary arrest. prolonged detentions without trial. sham trials. and, of course, as we seen very recently in february. shooting at point blank against those who are peacefulfully protesting. >> bill: so is he a monster, you know it and i know it i hope people watching will be convinced of that. now, there is also a terror component here. you know the 190 americans who