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And bill voted on just the other day, 82% of gun owners, not americans, 82% of gun owners support closing the terror gap. >> and yet, you know, even after sandy hook, the horror of sandy hook and now this is the worst incident of mass shooting since sandy hook, nothing changed. >> well, you know, as an organization, americans for responsible solutions, we're having and getting positive change in a lot of different states. we help pass expanded background checks in a number of different states. we've help pass domestic violence situation and we were part of the team of people that did a ballot ...

>> you obviously as we said met with president obama as did congresswoman giffords at the white house today. what, if anything, do you think can come out of that? did the president say about the chances of actually getting something passed and signed into law? >> we talked about what happened in the senate in the last couple days. to have the opportunity for the united states senate to vote to close this terror gap, i mean, we have a large number of people on the terrorist watch list. they currently have easy access to firearms here in the united states, and this is not a bill that president o...

Issue. >> it does seem that for those -- you know, there are many people who want some form of greater background checks but is this an issue people vote on and until it is, will there be real change? >> well, there is certainly a group of people that are enthusiastic gun rights supporters that take this on as their only issue so they only vote on this issue and that is certainly a problem. you know, we've signed up and mobilized 1 million people and we're trying to make them single issue voters, as well because besides the money that the gun lobby has to influence members of congress, you kno...

To track down where this stuff came from. there is at least one report in the los angeles times that the numbers, the serial numbers were taken off. so it's hard to say exactly where it will go but is it hard to see how it duoesn't foster some debate here? >> this touches almost every big issue going on in washington now from gun control to immigration. i think you will see a lot of debate about it. whether it becomes action in congress certainly remains to be seen. one thing that might get new attention is the bill to close what he calls the terror gap. right now the federal government cannot...

Carrying openly. let's listen to senator feinstein on the very point sam raised. >> you use the word, prohibit. it exempts 2,271 weapons. isn't that enough for the people in the united states? do they need a bazooka? do they need other high-powered weapons that military people use to kill in close combat? i don't think so. >> cynthia, a bazooka. what is the limit for this crowd? what you can carry? >> the gun lobby would say, yes, chris. and if sam sees that there are some republicans who are willing to sign on to reasonable gun legislation, i'm happy to hear that, because i haven't seen it. l...