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By the co-pilot of that plane bringing the plane down, crashing it into the sea, the egyptians simply rejected the findings of the ntsb. i think this lack of trust perhaps between egyptian and american officials goes back many, many years. >> nothing new there. ben wedeman, thank you very much. we'll focus closer in a moment on the real state of security in sham el sheikh, talking to someone that ran most of the challenging terror operations. first, more on what to make of the intelligence picture tonight. joining us is former fbi super vicery special agent ally sufan and former federal assist...

Sharm el sheikh talking to someone who ran one of the most challenging terror operations on the planet. first, more on what to make of the intelligence picture tonight. joining us is former fbi supervisory special agent ally sufan, and former federal assistant homeland security and former top hope land security official for the commonwealth of massachusetts. ellie, sounds like president obama is not as far out in front of this as david cameron was. what do you make of his comments? >> well, i think, you know, we have to be very careful. there is a possibility according to the intelligence case...

Strategic analyst, good morning to you. i see things that tick out. he was looking for large-scale terror operations. a lot of them were carried out by lone wolves and you could make that case here in the u.s. in regard to those circumstances. with regard to the arab spring, according to the afp, bin laden was stunned by uprisings, erupted across the region, in 2010, seizing quote the moment of revolution and rally muslim youth. first glance at this, colonel what do you see? >> what i see is an attempt by the administration to divert our attention from the fall of ramadi. do you think it is an...

Directly tied to terror operations and human trafficking. our forces managed to free a yazidi woman who the terror couple used as a slave. what do you make of this? >> first of all, i think we are going to get some information from that yazidi woman who was a slave and must have heard a lot of stuff but that will be limited. this is highly symbolic. this is reminding us that there are thousands, somewhere between 4,000 and 5,000 yazidi women taken as slaves in syria and iraq so -- but more importantly would be information. if the u.s. government would collect them about foreign fighters in syr...

Hebdo" attack did their part that's instruction, right? >> on 911 that's a wholly owned al qaeda plot by what we at the cia call core al qaeda. trained, directed paid met with the 19 hijackers. if you go forward let's say to 2009 remember the underwear bomber. he met with the al qaeda affiliate in yemen. we go now to 2015 and we're talking about terror operations that are not wholly owned by al qaeda, not owned by an affiliate but just a conversation with a guy in iraq or syria who says look i don't need to meet you, i don't need to train you, but the universe of people out there who are inter...