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hebdo" attack did their part that's instruction, right? >> on 911 that's a wholly owned al qaeda plot by what we at the cia call core al qaeda. trained, directed paid met with the 19 hijackers. if you go forward let's say to 2009 remember the underwear bomber. he met with the al qaeda affiliate in yemen. we go now to 2015 and we're talking about terror operations that are not wholly owned by al qaeda, not owned by an affiliate but just a conversation with a guy in iraq or syria who says look i don't need to meet you, i don't need to train you, but the universe of people out there who are interested should feel some obligation to attack. one more comment on this and that is we look at this as a failed attack. that is not how isis would look at it based on what you said. what they're trying to say is these two guys died in an effort to represent what they regard as the faith. if you don't get out and do the same thing, you should be ashamed that you don't have the