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That's the shrapnel that rips through flesh and really takes a number of people out. it's intended to cause maximum casualties. another thing this expert told me is these are not sophisticated in the sense you can detonate them, but they are made so they are full proof. so if a suicide bomber were to change their mind, if there's somebody close by, those belts could be detonated remotely. so there's no chance of them walking away assuming there is a second person who is there and willing to do that in case the bomber gets cold feet. i just got off the phone with a terrorism expert. we were tal...

Director. a previously scheduled appearance today in washington before the center for strategic and international studies. that got the attention of a lot of people, as you might imagine. with us here is a terrorism expert, and especially expert in this area of study. to hear the cia director say he wouldn't be surprised or there are indications, people in that job normally don't speak very candidly. does it mean to you that it was along the lines of a careful prediction? >> you know, i want to be careful here that we don't see any signs right now that is isis is going to carry out attack insi...

>> that's also the question, if only one of them had a ticket and we don't, maybe others had tickets as well, if they had ticket and the other two -- even if they hadn't gotten in couldn't debt nature their devices as people fled. >> that is very possible, yes. >> not only did they not do that inside, thank god, but they blew themselves up, i don't know, it seems to me it wasn't very powerful because they didn't kill anybody, one person was killed. >> and yet it was powerful enough that people inside the stadium like yourself heard it. >> it was powerful. i was speaking to a terrorism expert a...

Collusion that what they're doing now is not what they're doing. >> in the last two seconds we've gotten words from iran's president condemning this, calling it an inhumane crime. >> right. that is a just illustrative of the difficulty of the middle east right now. they're in the fight against isis but only because isis is intruding into their own terror group, hezbollah in the middle east. it's not a warm and fuzzy embrace by the iranians. >> certainly not. stay with us. trace ghallager preparing with live coverage. >> coming up at the top of the hour, a sobering conversation with a terrorism...

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