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None of them alleged to have been in any form of terrorist activity. they have to go through rigorous screening already. it is one of those sounds good but as a practical matter is not making a difference to the terrorism issue which is overwhelmingly a domestic terrorism united states problem. 9/11 was carried out by 19 foreign born arab terrorists. we conceive of it as a problem that comes from outside when in fact it is a problem that is internal to the united states. >> the chilling observation i remember from reading your book is that they're leading those that are here and causing terror...

Event that you might relate to what we saw in brussels? or is this something more from somebody that had mental issues like virginia tech shooter, the newtown massacre and movie theater attacks in colorado. i mean, what really is this? and people automatically and you have to look at the terror angle at the very beginning until you can pretty much dismiss it. and then find out what that motivation and why the mental illness if that's the issue and why he got the gun that he got, when did he purchase the gun, was he allowed to, did he have a criminal record? those are all going to be looked at ...

Terms of himself that is a mental health issue, a sad one, that needs to be treated. but in terms of the fact that isis raises its ugly spectre even in the area of mental health, what do we make of that? >> i think what the mental health professionals might tell us, richard, is that this person was looking to explain his, his homicidal ideology by the most oppressive group he could think of. isis was the one he thought of. if isis hadn't been there, it would have been al qaeda. if it hadn't been al qaeda, it might have been a white supremacist group. >> in other words, we need to be thinking o...

You at all? >> not so much, but it is a civilian organization. it's run very differently than the pentagon. you're dealing primarily with civilians. you do have the coast guard as part of homeland security. but you've got to be able to multitask. on the same deal happening with a terrorism issue, something happening in the air with a terrorism issue, you've got to deal with cybersecurity, which is an emerging threat that no one yet is adequately dealing with. >> are there any of the cabinet picks you've heard thus far that you do have issues with? >> well, you know, i think senator sessions as...

Approval rating amongst registered voters is at just 40% there. can he move the needle? >> i think that finding reflects the kind of tone deafness that he's had on the terrorism issue in the last few months. and he tried to address this in an oval office speech. not very successful. it was his second kind of unsuccessful effort to get in tune with where the american public is on this issue. you will see him make a third effort in the state of the union to convince people that he is responding appropriately to paris and sanbernardino. that will entail a good chunk of that foreign policy part of...