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that the ambassador made about putting them on the terrorist list, back on the list, we ought to at least consider some kind of covert action that would make them pay a price. last thing is this, if they are using the chinese infrastructure as a way of carrying out these attacks, we've to have a more serious conversation with china. the president signed this climate agreement, everybody was patting themselves on the back. and then within a matter of weeks, china becomes the attack vehicle tore for a major terrorist effort against the united states. that's a problem. >> ambassador hill, it does seem that the leadership is split about how much more political capital should be they spending defending north korea. should the united states try to drive a wedge through there? >> i think, first of all, the chinese are never very happy to be defending hollywood. i was just in china. i was really struck with the degree to which they are just fed up, sick of the north koreans. it's a good time to really be
of covert action that would make them pay a price. last thing is this, if they are using the chinese infrastructure as a way of carrying out these attacks, we've to have a more serious conversation with china. the president signed this climate agreement, everybody was patting themselves on the back. and then within a matter of weeks, china becomes the attack vehicle tore for a major terrorist effort against the united states. that's a problem. >> ambassador hill, it does seem that the leadership is split about how much more political capital should be they spending defending north korea. should the united states try to drive a wedge through there? >> i think, first of all, the chinese are never very happy to be defending hollywood. i was just in china. i was really struck with the degree to which they are just fed up, sick of the north koreans. it's a good time to really be engaging with them on north korea. i think ultimately the cyber issues -- this needs to be
agreement with china. when the president signed this climate agreement, china becomes the attack vector for a major terrorist effort against the united states. that's a problem. >> it does seem the leadership is split about how much more political capital should they be spending against north korea. should the united states try to drive a wedge through there? >> the chinese are never very happy to be defending hollywood i was just in china. i was really struck with the degree to which they are just fed up, sick of the north koreans. i think it is a good time to be engaging with them in a deeper way on north korea. i think ultimately, these cyberissues, this needs to be further developed. there need to be more than international covenants, maybe international laws. that's, i think, down the road. i think we need to work very closely with the chinese. they are the key to this issue and north korea's nuclear issue.
inattention allowed somebody to get into the cockpit who did this. perhaps we might learn something when we get the cockpit voice recorder or it could be recorded over, and perhaps we might get more information when we get the flight data recorder, if the pinger leads us to that in time. but until then, we're not really sure. but i think something happened in that cockpit. it was either an inside job or inattention that allowed an outsider, which i think is pretty remote. how would you know you could get the access? i think it was an inside job. >> i mean, of course that possibility is this. and if they find this black box under, you know, what could be two miles of ocean at the deepest point, that will give us an opportunity to listen to what happened in that cockpit. as you say, it's -- but if somebody were intentionally trying to run it off course or had any sort of terrorist effort in hand, nobody has taken any sort of credit for this. it is an odd combination of
event, which is for young people, athletes who train for years and years and years, that that could become the target of terrorist effort. i find that very disturbing, and i do believe that terrorists or others who think it's a big stage they can be seen on don't recognize it will not make them any friends and that the world sees both the threats as well as the actual activity that might occur at a setting like this. the world would see this in the most negative light and would have extraordinarily dire consequences for those that are carrying out these kinds of threats or making those kind of threats. >> stand by far moment, governor. we have a lot more to discuss. but representative peter king at the house homeland security committee's chairman of the subcommittee on terrorism and intelligence, he's getting briefed on what is going on. representative king, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> we're all disturbed, worried about toothpaste containers or cosmetics containers potentially
have a humanitarian toll on the he people of gaza. it's densely populated. when it invades gaza, civilians have the brunt of it. six children died. it's a dire humanitarian situation. there's growing concern as it to what the new calculus would bring for the people of gaza for the civilian population here. so far there's no end in sight or truth being brokered, and that's why it's safe to say that fear is definitely the reigning sentiment among the people of gaza so far. s.e. >> stay safe. now to the spin cycle. back here david petraeus testified behind closed doors today in front of the house and senate intelligence committees about the events surrounding the deadly september 11th attack on the u.s. embassy in benghazi. according to lawmakers inside the hearings, petraeus believed all aalong the attack was a coordinated terrorist effort, despite the fact that the
islam as a group that may have some involvement here. why would they want, you know, what's their interest in attacking this area? >> well, this is a very un-norwegian act, so the odds of it coming from someone other than a native norwegian, i think, are extremely high, and it is a classic terrorist effort, and it's going to have a dramatic impact on norway. there have been speculations because the famous muhammad cartoons were published there, because of this cleric who's under deportation proceedings. so without anyone taking responsibility for it or any definitive evidence, we can't say for be sure, but it sure looks like islamic terrorism. martha: just want to mention, we're just getting this piece of information from sky news, and it says that one man has been arrested on the island of lutoya, i hope i'm pronouncing that correctly n the shooting there. the norwegian prime minister was due to attend that political youth camp on the island
it is a classic terrorist effort, and it's going to have a dramatic impact on norway. there have been speculations because the famous muhammad cartoons were published there, because of this cleric who's under deportation proceedings. so without anyone taking responsibility for it or any definitive evidence, we can't say for be sure, but it sure looks like islamic terrorism. martha: just want to mention, we're just getting this piece of information from sky news, and it says that one man has been arrested on the island of lutoya, i hope i'm pronouncing that correctly n the shooting there. the norwegian prime minister was due to attend that political youth camp on the island tomorrow and address the attendees who we're told they range in the age from 16 to 30 who attend this. they also say that five people, they can now confirm according to sky, have been shot in this. we don't know how serious those injuries are as of yet, but that's the very latest, ambassador be bolton, that we're
distinction. but there's always going to be isolated incidents, isolated fanatics, isolated terrorists even. but an organized terrorist effort to me is different, which requires an investigation into itself. >> well, the white house is already working out -- is already out working to reassure the muslim community that this is certainly not a war on them. so is it reality or racial profiling? we'll have a debate about this in our next hour with dr. suni jassar. he will be testifying at the hearing. as well as the founder of a national movement promoting interfaith cooperation. seven minutes past the hour right now. also new this morning, shades of the bp oil spill. an oil rig catching fire in the gulf of mexico sunday. happened about 50 miles off the coast of louisiana. the coast guard rescued two workers. they used a life capsule to escape from the fire. company officials say the production platform had been shut down. they believe that no oil has
these are all people who are identifying one way or another with al qaeda or al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. it's an international movement with elements here in the united states. to me that is a real distinction. there are always go going to be isolated incidents, fanatics, terrorists even. but an organized terrorist effort to me is different which requires an investigation unto itself. >> protesters showed up sunday in new york. they say congressman king is demonizing the muslim community. i talked with a woman whose muslim son was killed trying to save others on 9/11. i asked her if she thinks king's hearings could spell trouble for muslims in america. >> they have been persecuted -- i mean, would be. take away our rights to pursue the faith of our choice which is our constitutional right and nobody can do that. the white house came out with a statement saying that the