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The remaining leadership of al qaeda is on the run but the ideology of violent islamist extremism is rapidly spreading. bill: do you think we accept that now? or have we turned against that thinking? >> no, i think that there is a lot of deep concern especially after what you saw in boston of more of a homegrown terrorist element and not so much that al qaeda is coming here per se but we have the thoughts of al qaeda being really infiltrating our youth, infiltrating people visiting here or overstaying their visas. it's very serious. i know when joe and i were on homeland there was always deep ...

Motivating thought seems to be jihadist thought, the idea there is political and religious motivation, that islam is under attack, and they fight back. that seems to be what investigators have. to underline once more this is preliminary what dzhokhar is telling them, no one takes dzhokhar's word for it. >> and he says they were radicalized online by watching videos, not communicate with any foreign terrorist element? >> that's what dzhokhar is saying. we've seen this before, this is one of the reason why the cleric, anwar al awlaki put up videos online. he's been killed by a drone strike. that...

That country there should be extra vetting from that country. i'm grandson of immigrants. i have some concern with security aspect of immigration reform i don't think we should use it as an excuse to stop the debate. i do believe if someone is coming from country, which has strong al-qaeda any other type of terrorist element in it, we should not be afraid to ask extra questions or research and to vetting to make sure that people coming in here have no affiliation at all to the terrorist groups. >> we want to thank you for a spirited discussion. we will stay on top of the developments. >> thank...

Have good defensive effect. i don't think this is applicable. there are people who want to make the argument but a .12-game shotgun. 2,000 weapons available for people without assault weapon. >> chris: we are running out of time so i won't give you a chance to answer that question, congressman king but i'll give you a chance to answer another question. this has spilled? debate on immigration reform. grassley, the senator from iowa says before we reform the system we have to focus more on who we let in the country. your response? >> well, first, i don't think it should have severe impact on the...

That country there should be extra vetting from that country. i'm grandson of immigrants. i have some concern with security aspect of immigration reform i don't think we should use it as an excuse to stop the debate. i do believe if someone is coming from country, which has strong al-qaeda any other type of terrorist element in it, we should not be afraid to ask extra questions or research and to vetting to make sure that people coming in here have no affiliation at all to the terrorist groups. >> we want to thank you for a spirited discussion. we will stay on top of the developments. >> thank...