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Are there to be taken as hostages and used forhe bargaining. there is some suggestion that might happen with those that are trapped there, but i think that remains to be seen. but it's certainly a possibility and you've got in addition to having the taliban and control, no friends of the united states, you've also got these terrorist elements there, al qaeda and isis-k, that may turn out to be willing to grab people on the ground as well, so obviously it's a worry, it's part of the ticking time bomb. >> mike: we have a few seconds remaining, do you get a sense that president biden's political ...

Century. >> tammy: as they found out with the president with the election of donald trump that things can change on a dime here in this country. jim, you know, speaking of the nature of what we're dealing with here, we had a pentagon briefing earlier. where the secretary of defense austin and the joint chiefs of staff mark milley said, you know, well, pretty much they implied that we might be willing to work with the taliban to get rid of other terrorist elements there when the haqqani guy has been assigned to security in kabul and that's an element of al-qaeda. what do you think about that? i...

Ton of them. >> brianna, you're right. it's very sad to hear the stories of the families being separated. we talked about this before on this program. u.s. government's first and foremost priority is always to focus on citizens. we don't like this hierarchy, but it does exist. reading between the lines of what the administration is saying, they're going to work on taking care of these green card holders. they skrust can't do it by august 31st. that's where the communication with the taliban and this negotiation becomes all the more critical. >> phil, we have seen, in addition to, i think, the ...

Any terrorist elements who think they can operate with impunity in afghanistan. >> i'm curious about going forward though, sir. are americans going to just have to get used to the idea of the taliban as the legitimate government of afghanistan? and, if so, is there any way to hold them to their word and have them not return to their brutal, tyranical rule? >> well, certainly we have in the international community hold some leverage on the taliban, and their legitimacy has yet to be decided. they clearly own the country, control the country in a military sense, but there's more to governing tha...

Advantage and it will continue to be as we try to control the terrorist elements that unfortunately now are going to grow. neil: you know, speaking of those terrorist elements, general, i appreciate you are just trying to educate us on what we're looking at here, i have heard explained, you know that isis k, they don't get along with the taliban at all. but i have heard others say, you know, as much as they hate each other, the thing that bonds them is that they hate us more. and that that will be the galvanizing force going forward. as it's lit up extremist social media, across the board. wit...