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The white house, okay, you should tell people ahead of time that this is coming? would that have spoiled what you had? >> i think from a safety standpoint if you announce in five days or ten days these countries will become travel restricted you could have enormous unintended consequences similarly and more importantly there are individuals who are plotting to engage in terrorism who simply have terrorist ideas or sympathies, they would then use that window to enter the united states. he from a security standpoint that would be inexcusable. steve: you didn't want to reveal your hand, instead y...

That others would see. only those closest to him. whatever this friend or other associate is, that's going to be very important to find out. as we see in the case of, you know, him marrying malik and those two in their pillow talk could have been discussing conducting an attack. it may have been her that gave him the spine to finally go through with an attack. without a substantial step, john -- i'm sorry. >> for the first time we're hearing about this other person that farook had been planning this earlier attack in 2012. we don't know how far along they got, if it was just discussions, but t...

Radical ideas. >> he said he had told him he had quit boxing and listening to mainstream music because misha taught him that in islam it's not good to do these things. asked if he suspected that misha was connected to any terrorist groups -- >> i didn't suspect either him or tamerlan being connected to terror group or having terrorist ideas, but i know that they had a lot of conversations about just, you know, islam and how islam is being attacked pr the outside -- you know, from the western countries and how islam is under pressure. >> asked when tamerlan became a more devout islam, the ex-br...

>> reporter: tamerlan tsarnaev told him he quit boxes and listening to music because misha fought him in islam it is not good to do those things. >> i didn't suspect him or tamerlan being connected to terror groups or terrorist ideas. they had a lot of conversations about just, you know, islam and how islam is being attacked from the outside from the western countries and how islam is under pressure. >> reporter: asked when tamerlan became a more devout muslim, he noticed it about four years ago. we cross referenced his name.

>> reporter: more pieces fit together in a telephone interview wolf blitzer did with the ex-brother-in-law of the two suspects. he said he met misha twice, was introduced to him by tamerlan. he didn't witness misha turning tamerlan into a radical islamist -- >> he surely did have influence and did teach him things that would make tamerlan, you know, go away from the people and go more into the religion. and maybe that is possible that he suggested to him some radical ideas. >> reporter: he said tamerlan tsarnaev told him he'd quit boxing and listening to mainstream music because misha taught h...