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Isis is still a dangerous and lethal terrorist network. isis still has global ambitions. now, they lack some of the capabilities they had before. in fact, many of the capabilities they had before, but they're still a dangerous terrorist network. so we should take that threat seriously. arthel: if you were to surmise and based on your expertise, what or who is the likely target? >> what they would like is to target i'm sure the west and america. but their capabilities are more likely going to be regional. since they are no longer the territory -- territorial and geographic caliphate that they u...

Truth. this organization has 14-18,000 fighters in iraq and syria as stated by the president's special envoy to syria, ambassador jeffries. and there's 10,000 fighters in detention. i'm not talking about the families in detention. these are the fighters by themselves in detention. that's a significant number and we have got to keep our foot on the throat of these guys. so bringing troops into the eastern part of syria, secure oil fields, but they will also be making certain that isis does not reemerge. that terrorist network -- the institute i'm associated with, they track it every single day ...

Can't really tell which one was better and that's kind of the point, kevin, your response? >> yeah, the first one was correct in that they called him the head of isis, they should have kept the leadership of terrorist network, not this silly ridiculous, sad, wrong headline calling him a religious off steer leader, i agree with you 100% heather, but to holy's point calling into question nancy pelosi the speaker of the house's commitment to american troops is fundamentally wrong and un-american, just to return to that point. heather: holy did say low-level -- >> she called into question nancy pe...

In syria, and how they were able to propagate and actually conduct operations based on that revenue and spread their message worldwide. all of that has been lost, but nonetheless, isis does persist, still as a terrorist network and it has affiliates around the world. some of those affiliates already existed, maria but because it became an iconic organization they changed the name to gather a closer affiliation for recruitment and money raised in purpose with isis. that organization is out there, to be sure isis has a network that still exists in iraq and syria, and we've got to stay on top of ...

Ground. >> they did the fighting. fighting it's a myth that the united states was doing the fighting. we were advising them for artillery and air support. for a modest investment, we got a huge payoff, destroyed the calcaliphate, pushed back the organization to a terrorist network, protected america, protected europe. huge, significant payoff for that investment. the se second thing that's happening is the iranians are massing on the western side of the you' river. we own everything on the eastern side. they're doing that as we speak. that is happening because they see an opportunity. the kurd...