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Changes? what do you think is the best way to explain to them that this is a necessary tool? >> i'm glad you raised this issue because despite all of the chatter and criticisms we have about the russian investigation, i think one of perhaps the most important tool that a country has to protect the homeland is that program, the 702 program. what it does is it allows her nsa to go out and try to intercept communications abroad between not americans about terrorist plots, getting people into the country, communicating with people in new york and trying to carry out the subway bombing or driving t...

Criticism the former president didn't do enough to crush isis. >> this was a top priority. from the early days of isis gaining the type of territorial safe haven it gained in particular, there was a recognition that safe haven for terrorist groups can mean terrorist plots that extend not just into the region but into europe or into the united states. >> just because isis has been defeated its brand is still alive with a new round of calls for attacks on the united states today, julie. >> julie: home grown terrorists is what we call them in the united states. what other threats remain, lucas? >...

>> the rules of engagement under the obama administration were onerous. what are we doing calving individual target determination being conducted in the white house? that took in some cases weeks, the limitations of what you could and could not be had actually resulted in greater civilian casualties. >> to come in the military says less than 1,000 isis fighters remaindered remain commit mostly near the border here on the map in red. isis controlled an area about the size of ohio. pushing back on any criticism that the former president did not do enough to crush isis. >> this was a top priority...

>> well, you know, i think that a warning going from president putin by president trump himself is pretty high level. who would do this themselves. and as a matter of fact, when we have terrorist plots that are broken by u.s. intelligence and we want to pass that warning on, we would have liaison officers or diplomats do this duty. do these duties. so it's highly unusual for the president of the united states and his staff, senior staff to have called russia themselves about something which the russians may have already known. you know, it's very interesting that, you know, in russia, their se...

Specific information about terrorist plots. and, you know, the russians may in fact be playing us in order to get president trump the ability to say that this relationship needs to be strengthened and by extension, maybe sanctions need to be removed. >> huh. but again to reiterate, the fact that the president made this phone call to inform the russian president, that you find highly unusual. is there another circumstance that you know of where a president may have done that or in this particular administration, is there another country with whom individuals over terrorism is do so great that y...