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There's been a plea bargain with najibullah zazi, able to get a lot of intelligence from him. every time the authorities are able to get these people to talk and use leverage to get them to talk, that's a good thing for u.s. counter terrorism officials trying to keep this country safe. >> you you mentioned a surge, you said we have seen more of this? i would imagine, can we expect more of these -- another way to put it, wannabes in the near future to come about? >> i think, unfortunately, the trend is for more americans to become involved in violent extremism, some of them are home grown, they...

Involved in a very serious al qaeda plot here in september, able to get a lot of intelligence from him. so every time the authorities are able to get these people to talk and to use leverage to get them to talk, that's a very, very good thing for u.s. counterterrorism officials trying to keep this country safe, don. >> you mentioned a surge. you said we have seen more of this. i would imagine can we expect more of these -- another way to put it, wannabes in the near future to come about? >> i think unfortunately the trend is for more americans to become involved in violent extremism. some of t...

In violent extremism. some are completely homegrown and radicalized over here. the most worrying cases are the people going overseas, especially to pakistan to train in al qaeda's camps there or also in yemen. we see americans going to yemen and becoming involved with groups linked to al qaeda over there. these people have the sort of terrorist skills which can make them very, very dangerous and make their plots more likely to succeed, don. those are the ones that american counterterrorism officials are concerned about. >> what in the world would make an american want to do this, especially wo...

Serious plots here in september able to get a lot of intelligence from him. every time the authorities are able to get the people to talk and use leverage to get them to talk, that's a very, very good thing for u.s. counter terrorism officials trying to keep the country safe. >> you mentioned the surge. we have seen more of this? i imagine we can expect more of these. another way of putting this, wannabes? >> unfortunately the trend is for more americans to be involved in extremism. some of them are sort of completely homegrown and radicalized here and want to launch attacks. the most worrying...

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