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I figure i can explain it to st. peter. he will be on my side because i am so far i don't think as a lawyer i ever said anything that's untruthful koechlt. >> wow. it's hard to know what -- >> sorry. >> it's hard to know what he is saying there. but i mean, in the larger perspective, i mean, this is sad and pathetic in a lot of ways. because remember, this is the man who used to be known as america's mayor. this is the man who was known to make new york city livable before. this is the man who helped new york through the 9/11 terrorist tragedy. and if he had retired from public life at that po...

"somehow i don't think that it will be. but if it is, so what do i care? i'll be dead. i figure i can explain it to st. peter. he will be on my side because i am -- so far i don't think as a lawyer i ever said anything that's untruthful." >> wow. it's hard to know what -- >> sorry. >> it's hard to know what he is saying there. but i mean, in the larger perspective, i mean, this is sad and pathetic in a lot of ways. because remember, this is the man who used to be known as america's mayor. this is the man who was known to make new york city livable before. this is the man who helped new york th...

Things that i thought of. the first is i went back to my old life, and 12 years after 9/11, i react the same way everyone does, please don't make in the kind of terrorist tragedy that we're concerned about in the united states. and the second thing, of course, is the tragedy of a child that's going to grow up without a mother. i think the police did the right thing, they potentially safed a lot of lives in washington, but it's still a tragedy. martha: it is. it's so tragic when you learn about this woman, dr. ab low, and once again, another story about a person who obviously has some mental he...