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Stopping people. >> martha: the law-abiding citizens who live makes communities that need to be in a saber situation because they are not right now. >> 90% of the stops that were made were illegal, martha. >> martha: we gotta go. i want to get reaction from gary mccarthy, the police chief for four years. you heard the conversation, what you think? >> i don't know where to start. first of all, they are called the terry stops. the supreme court in 1968 determined that the police can stop people based upon reasonable suspicion. that is the authority on whether or not we can stop people. is not th...

Stopping people. >> martha: the law-abiding citizens who live makes communities that need to be in a saber situation because they are not right now. >> 90% of the stops that were made were illegal, martha. >> martha: we gotta go. i want to get reaction from gary mccarthy, the police chief for four years. you heard the conversation, what you think? >> i don't know where to start. first of all, they are called the terry stops. the supreme court in 1968 determined that the police can stop people based upon reasonable suspicion. that is the authority on whether or not we can stop people. is not th...

>> sherrilynn ifill is the president and director of the naacp's he education fund. george pataki a former governor of the great state of new york. these are called terry stops. in a terry stop, a police officer needs to be operating on more than a hunch. the way new york city was carrying out stop and frisk the judge said resulted in an indirect form of racial profiling. >> yeah, i totally disagree with the judge, michael. you're probably not surprised by that. i think what we have seen is a dramatic reduction in violent crime in the city. there will be at least 2,000 fewer murderers this yea...

Or father is not coming home at night. >> sherrilynn ifill is the president and director of the naacp's he education fund. george pataki a former governor of the great state of new york. these are called terry stops. in a terry stop, a police officer needs to be operating on more than a hunch. the way new york city was carrying out stop and frisk the judge said resulted in an indirect form of racial profiling. >> yeah, i totally disagree with the judge, michael. you're probably not surprised by that. i think what we have seen is a dramatic reduction in violent crime in the city. there will be ...

Warrants are limited and not required. let's take a bunch of situations where there is no probable cause. you could not have a warrant and yet have searches and seizures every day in america as in airport metal detectors and at the border. as with terry stops, a stop and frisk, which are not based on proper cause. >> the question is where does this end? if that is the case and this is no bounding principal. >> there is a bounding principal. it ends with reasonableness. one could think that this policy in maryland is unreasonable. that's a fair discussion. but justice scalia says it's unreasona...