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Wouldn't have been happy about that video he put out. it is really hard to argue, no, we can't do this. the publicity would be too bad, if he himself has been trying to influence public opinion on this. i think something to look for in the case, during the me too movement, the victims and focus were on women who were caucasian women. i think in this case, in the r. kelly documentary, these are two test cases. this is something the defendant in the spacey case pointed out, to encourage people who have been victims of abuse who do not look like the other victims, people who are men, women of col...

We've got to be able to figure out a way to do two things. part of what's exciting to me is you now have, among democrats, a test case, five test cases to see if a more progressive populous message can work. stacey abrams in georgia, gillem in florida, beto in texas and you have paulette jordan in idaho, all of whom are doing something unusual. they're proud to be progressives. they look somewhat different. if all of them lose, what that says is democrats, guess what, this idea that we can have a multicultural, multiracial populism is not smart but if a couple of them win maybe there's a pathw...

First amendment speech. >> but legally, what can we really do? >> prosecutors are obligated to bring difficult cases. test cases. i think we have to not be afraid of the first amendment protections which we all love and embrace. we have to bring test cases like if somebody's riding around in a van with a rifle target over the face of a presidential candidate or a former president, i maintain as a prosecutor that could be charged as communicate ago threat. i would bring that case if i were still a prosecutor. let the defense mount a first amendment offense and let the judges sort it out. becaus...

That some judges have been more directly involved in politics but i think the main thing that drives that perception is key rulings that the court makes and for example test cases of roe v. wade, will the court uphold or overturn? a full overturning i think would fully outrage the entire left and make it extremely likely to try court packing when they could. i think more likely outcome is in the middle and weakens it without overturning it and i think key on roberts' mind, how far can they go with legitimate sy to not face court packing. >> thank you both for joining us. and again, any momen...

Collisions, cornell, there is a guy who won the democratic primary there, very impressive resume. what's interesting about that district, he's a black nominee running in a district i think 80, 85% white, a very white district. he's not the only one losing, down in georgia six is a black woman running in a district majority white and you have stacy abrams running -- >> and in 14 as well. >> that's right. that's a fascinating phenomenon to me given the white racial identity politics we've seen cultivated by donald trump in this era, those are test cases. >> it's a backlash. in full disclosure, i...