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I think about president clinton after oklahoma city. what do they do when something goes wrong? do they have a break glass in case of an emergency plan? >> donald trump hasn't been test ed in that way yet. >> correct. >> most of the crises he's faced are self-made. there hasn't been that terrible disaster. you could argue the hurricane in puerto rico -- >> failed that. >> charlottesville was -- >> he failed every test. >> compare charlottesville to president obama dealing with trayvon martin or ferguson where he took flack from his base. i can't tell you how many times many of us were saying, ...

People and helped americans see each other in a positive and frankly loving human light. trump does the opposite. >> this is off topic, but i keep thinking and i've had this conversation. what happens when something goes wrong? i think about president obama after newtown and i think of him channeling the grief of the nation. i think about george w. bush after 9/11, i think about him standing on the crushed fire engine and talking about how we hear you. i think about -- >> reagan after the challenger. >> reagan after the challenger touching -- the peggy nunes speech. i think about president cli...

Point or two behind, and so looking at how close it is, and with two months the go, and it would have been a nail biter and would you have ever expected a nail biter. >> well, clear politics has ted up by 4 1/2 point, and here is the key thing, and the opponent has not been vetted or test ed by the media, and -- >> he is looking like the nice guy. >> i am sure he is a nice guy, and that being said, we know that he fled the scene of a dui in 1998 and a lot of other st y stories that are looking into the past, because he has not had the true vetting by the voters around and the more they learn a...