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Was or not is particularly relevant. >> bill: what do you make of what has been considered a series of gaffes and perhaps for the folks in iowa who are thinking that joe biden doesn't need to win there but can still win the nomination? >> well, i think that when it comes to iowa every candidate believes that iowa is important. you wouldn't have joe biden campaigning in iowa and spending so much time there if he didn't think it was important. let me remind you and your viewers, whoever gets our nomination is a delegate game. whoever gets the most delegates will end up getting our nomination and...