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Where you can build a long term life for yourself. tough to get out and that was depress nag lot of ways because it was our home and i loved it. but they were like, you've got to go and get an education, credentials, these are the things that are necessary to survive in 21st century america. i don't have them. unless you get them, you're going to suffer in the same ways that i have. so that's just always the plan. the family will have to depend on me. i'm going to be the guy who has an opportunity here so i've got to get my stuff together and try to do as well as i can so that was sort of the ...

And realize that kids were admitted into schools -- it's one thing if your test schools are faked and the school may not have a way of knowing that. but on athletic ability, which is a measurable thing, there are kids that got into these schools which brings coaches into this thing. barrett, tell me how this is racketeering. i get why it's fraud. why are there racketeering allegations? >> i think when most people think of racketeering, they think of the mob. in 1970 the purpose was to infiltrate organized mob. since then prosecutors have used the statute to focus on instances where there's a p...

Rocking awesome. >> john: and these kids say school is fun? >> how is it fun to learn. >> in a fun way. >> so you look forward going to school in the morning? >> yes. >> john: they attend one of the new charter schools. free public schools but the charter let's them escape the bureaucracy of regular schools, including teacher union rules. this enrolls the bureaucracy at risk of failure but these kids learn. >> going to our school is a ticket to educational success. >> john: this woman runs several charter schools, all get outstanding test schools. >> you do it with the same money? >> we do it ...