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Can have both deep learning and deep thinking and also healthy lifestyle. >> reporter: one of the experts? author alfie kohn. >> this reflects the sort of thing you would expect to see in a bad corporation. instead, it is imposed on teachers and children. >> reporter: psychologists says american kids are terribly stressed. >> kids are looking to achieve a goal without thinking about the process of getting there. in other words, let me get a good grade or high test score, but what about learning and critical thinking? >> reporter: backers of the film hopes it insists on improvements on how we r...

>> if you can measure it, then you can assign a value to it. a lot of what we do isn't measured on a test, so we're all kind of curious how that will pan out. >> your test score, i think that really doesn't have any bearing on your quality of life, except for the paycheck that someone might attach to that later. it's very hard to quantify in terms of what we do in the long term. >> kids, after they graduate, they can do some internships and have some really decent-paying jobs pretty quickly. >> normal blood cells. whose blood cells are this i? >> humans. >> people like manufacturing, industria...

What you need there is to engage the students, you need to be interesting, high energy, and you need to have discipline that. doesn't cost money. that's free. you bring that in. and all i keep hearing these people say is, we need more money, we need more money. look, on long island where i live, elderly people have to sell their homes because they can't afford the property taxes. this is insane. all right? so put every american school, public school kid in a uniform, number one. and impose discipline across the board. get people in there who will do that and your test score also go up. >> bria...

They're disputing the analysis the "l.a. times" did with regard to the figures. having said that, the unions have been protecting the bad teachers. >> i think both of those things may be correct. i think the unions are objecting to the way the "l.a. times" reported and the methodology it used. i do agree with charlie -- welcome back to planet earth, charlie. >> thank you. back to planet epstein. >> the test score are a crude measure and shouldn't be the only measure. for all of you people who love to criticism obama, in 2007 when obama was behind in the polls in the primary he took the teacher...

>> i agree that there are major problems with unions protecting teachers who are not doing a good job. i agree we need reform. i think the democrats have not taken the lead on this the way they should have. thank god we got a president that has the guts to stand up to the unions and say we need real reforms. >> cheryl: charlie, i want to go back again to the money. i wonder at the end of the day, not only do we win by this data we got from the "l.a. times" because we find out students, some are doing very well and some are not. one door apart in school. >> it wasn't exactly the greatest revela...