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Joining us now is tim o'brien, senior columnist for bloomberg opinion. he's the author of the book "trump nation." tim was sued by donald trump and won. tim, you've been there with donald trump in the world of depositions. he's going to take that oath and he's going to be one sentence away from perjury every moment he is under oath. and in any civil suit he can be asked, for example, about his net worth because his ability to pay damages is part of the testimonial base of the case. there's landmines everywhere for him. >> we've talked about this before, lawrence, but donald trump is every lawy...

Joining us now is tim o'brien, senior columnist, and author of the book trump nation, jim was sued by donald trump and won, tim you've won -- he's going to take that oath, and is going to be one sentence away from perjury, every moment he is under oath. and in any civil suit, he can be asked for example, about his net worth. because his ability to pay damages is part of the testimonial base of the case, there's land mine everywhere for him. >> we've talked about this before, lawrence but donald trump's every lawyers, nightmare under deposition, he's a pathological liar, he's undisciplined, he'...