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Jobs. thank you for being here tonight? are we reading into the intimacy, being invited into the inner sanctum of the white house paired with the recalcitrant and is that a fair assessment? >> i don't think we're over reading it. when you have a senior law enforcement official like anthony ornato leaves the agency to become a political appointee in the house. and then for him to return to the secret service after serving in that position, it raises appropriate questions about what he was doing and to what extent he had any role with regard to

Congress certainly, this committee believes that he's committed criminal acts and so the country will want to know why isn't justice being done and i do think that will cause the department of justice to think long and hard about these charges, about the evidence and about the importance of making sure that presidents don't get a pass. >> congressman schiff, it's alex wagner, thanks for your time and i just wanted to ask about some of the witnesses that you made note of in the exhaustive reports. specifically deputy chief of staff tony ornato. you say multiple times in the report that the comm...

Accountability. not just for the perpetrators, but for the accountability of our justice department and the justice system. the justice department, if they decide not to charge donald trump, it doesn't actually have to explain why. but, the country now knows that he is committed criminal acts. so, the country will want to know, why isn't justice being done. i do think that will cause the department of justice to think long and hard about the charges and the evidence, about the importance of making sure that presidents don't get a pass. >> congresswoman, this is alex wagner, thank you for your ...

They found his testimony questionable we would say we don't think he's telling the truth. they find that neither mark meadows nor ornato told trump as was their job about the intelligence emerging. they're saying, we think that meadows is a liar -- they're not saying it like that. but that's the message. >> no question about it. there are a lot of loose ends that will be very interesting to see when we get these transcripts. we will see a transcript of tony ornato's testimony. and my understanding is there is a lot of don't recall there. that was a problem for a lot of other witnesses. former ...