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How is it that government employees, past or present, can defy testimony requests or even subpoenas. we know the former nsa, john bolton, saying he's not going to testify unless subpoenaed. we know the energy secretary, rick perry, says he is considering it if only in the matter of being subpoenaed. then robert blair, the assistance to the president and senior adviser to the acting chief of staff mick mulvaney, saying to his attorney that he doesn't intend to testify. what's your view on these government employees or former who will dismiss members of congress' requests for testimony? >> yeah....

Remember and, you know, chairman cummings of the oversight committee said it yesterday, is that they have -- the congress -- the oversight committee has not received a single document in response to any request or any subpoena that's been given since the democrats took over the house. there has been a complete ban on cooperating with congress and it's clear that the only way this is going to be resolved to the democrats' satisfaction any way is if the courts force the issue. now, the problem for the democrats is that the courts are probably going to take a long time and why yesterday's vote is...