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No illusion that what we're seeing there is completely genuine and michelle's mother was possessed? >> oh, absolutely. everything was ruled out. she had all kinds of testing done, physical, mental. absolutely everything was ruled out. as time was going on during the investigation, pat started falling victim to this. she was exhibiting, you know, several of the different signs we look for. gaining an enormous amount of strength, talking in a language she wasn't familiar with, familiar with different things. she would just start tossing these big, hulky guys around holding her down like they wer...

>> tell me your name. who are you? tell me your name. name. answer my question. leave her alone. what is your name? i tried the name of jesus christ. what is your name? tell me your name. who? how many of you are there? >> nine. >> nine. >> this is very harrowing stuff. it must be hard for you to watch as well, michelle. we'll start with you, john. you looked into this. >> yes. >> and you're under absolutely no illusion that what we're seeing there is completely genuine and michelle's mother was possessed? >> oh, absolutely. everything was ruled out. she had all kinds of testing

>> oh, absolutely. everything was ruled out. she had all kinds of testing done, physical, mental. absolutely everything was ruled out. as time was going on during the investigation, pat started falling victim to this. she was exhibiting, you know, several of the different signs we look for. gaining an enormous amount of strength, talking in a language she wasn't familiar with, familiar with different things. she would just start tossing these big, hulky guys around holding her down like they were rag dolls. >> are these classic signs of someone who has been possessed by the devil? >> absolutel...

>> yes. >> you are under no illusion that what we are seeing is genuine and michelle's mother was possessed? >> absolutely. everything was rolled out. she had all kinds of testing done, physical, mental. everything was ruled out. as time was going on during the investigation, pat started falling victim to this. she was exhibit strengths. talking in a language she wasn't familiar with. she would start tossing big guys down like they were rag dolls. >> are they classic signs of somebody that has been possessed by the devil? >> absolutely. it falls into the category of what a true possession actu...

>> this is very harrowing stuff. it must be hard for you to watch as well, michelle. i'm going to start with you, john. you looked into this. >> yes. >> you are under no illusion that what we are seeing is genuine and michelle's mother was possessed? >> absolutely. everything was rolled out. she had all kinds of testing done, physical, mental. absolutely everything was ruled out. as time was going on during the investigation, pat started falling victim to this. she was exhibiting, you know, several of the different signs we look for. an enormous amount of strength, talking in a language she wa...