If i interrupt or even laughed at john at kate, that interrupts the microphone because my microphone is still live in the machine that controls the mike, you have to give way to them. that means you can't have a fluid debate or conversation. so we have to apologise to workers, but hopefully by the spring, we'll be back in one space again. let's talk about the telegraph, because you sort of alluded to this, testing rules to be allowed on staff shortages?— rules to be allowed on staff shortaues? . , ., , , rules to be allowed on staff shortaues? . , .,, , ., shortages? the telegraph has its ow...