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>> well, judge, this goes back to 16th century law where attorney-client communications is privileged. those tapes are made between attorney and client, privileged. as you well know, judge, back 34 years ago we didn't have laptop computers, iphones, a lot of other things, so lawyers at that time would -- instead of write on their note pad, they would tape conversations between clients. now, to go back now and to get those tapes, it's just like going and hearing the communication between the lawyer and the client. >> look, look, kelly, no one disagrees with you. there is an attorney-client priv...

Allowed his biographer at that time to write a book. as you're probably well versed with the decision in new york where professor wrote a book on a man who was accused of a crime, found guilty. professor appealed the decision. >> what is your client's position today? >> his position today -- it's very clear, and i've made that clear through the court filings, that he wants those tapes to remain confidential. >> he does. i understand that there was a bankruptcy appeal where the judge had indicated that the lapd could look at it. let me ask you one more question, kelly. it appears that the lapd ...

To judge, look, not only are we looking at 12 unsolved cases, it may help people who have been wrongfully convicted. that from an lapd detective. >> if you want to violate the attorney-client privilege, you want specifics, not hunches, not guesses. >> all right. >> attorney client privilege was violated by tex. >> was able to with a it in the past, von bulow. >> who? >> as far as i'm concern and you're concerned they should be able to go after the tapes, right? >> yes, for many reasons, including the fact, as mark points out, maybe there are innocent people who -- >> wrongfully accused. >> som...

Allowed his biographer at that time to write a book. as you're probably well versed with the decision in new york where professor wrote a book on a man who was accused of a crime, found guilty. professor appealed the decision. >> what is your client's position today? >> his position today -- it's very clear, and i've made that clear through the court filings, that he wants those tapes to remain confidential. >> he does. i understand that there was a bankruptcy appeal where the judge had indicated that the lapd could look at it. let me ask you one more question, kelly. it appears that the lapd ...

To judge, look, not only are we looking at 12 unsolved cases, it may help people who have been wrongfully convicted. that from an lapd detective. >> if you want to violate the attorney-client privilege, you want specifics, not hunches, not guesses. >> all right. >> attorney client privilege was violated by tex. >> was able to with a it in the past, von bulow. >> who? >> as far as i'm concern and you're concerned they should be able to go after the tapes, right? >> yes, for many reasons, including the fact, as mark points out, maybe there are innocent people who -- >> wrongfully accused. >> som...