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Say, we condemn this. please stand down. if you don't, people are going to die. now the committee in the document did not say who that former white house official is. but we actually know who it is. thanks to "washington post" reporters carol and phil rucker in their book "i alone can fix it." identified that as alyssa farrah who was a former strategic communications director. another example, we're told that we're going to hear about text exchanges from media personalities. that sounds to me like reporters. maybe some fox news reporters who were reaching out to mark meadows. and i think we wi...

But let's talk about meadows a little further. steven bannon is the other big bold-faced name. he's asserted executive privilege. he was not serving in the white house at the time. have a better chance of pulling it off? where do you think that goes for the chief of staff in the next week or so? >> he was cooperating. he already handed over thousands of documents and e-mails and text exchanges. sitting down for an interview is ahead for him, the representatives have said once they had information indicated the scope of the information they were looking for, they found the committee was not res...

In criminal contempt. that will make meadows the third former-trump official that the committee will vote to hold in contempt. clearly, there is this pattern here and there is a strategy by trump's closest allies. delay, distract long enough to kill the committee and its investigation. it is important to note that this total breakdown between meadows and the committee comes after meadows did, initially, cooperate as cheney just said, right? he handed over very important e-mails and text exchanges, including an early january 2021 text exchange between meadows and an organizer of the january 6th...

They're telling me is that when you look at these text exchanges, e-mail exchanges, this is what was going on in real time. this is january 6th, the riot is unfolding, and people are e-mails mark meadows. what is the important of that? he is with donald trump. so the committee now has a window into what was donald trump doing? and what wasn't he doing? dereliction of duty is something that many of these members have talked about, why didn't he stop the riot? they may think they have a lot of insight into that question just by looking at these texts and e-mails that mark meadows voluntarily han...

Able to learn what was actually in let's say those texts on phone calls, from individuals who are already cooperating with the investigation. so if someone like mark meadows is not going to cooperate, maybe someone like mark short, former vice president's chief of staff, maybe they were texting. maybe mark short has that text exchange. and my sense is, it's likely they're already seeing some of these text exchanges. >> interesting. so what can the committee piece together from these phone records, elliott? >> so here's -- just put it in concrete terms, don. under normal circumstances, you migh...