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Sometimes people will measure their testimony not to enrage the commander in chief, sometimes -- again, when it's close. they're never going to lie to you and never had an admiral or a general or anybody lie to me on the armed services committee. they rarely come out and do what happened the other day and just come out and basically say, the president of the united states is dead wrong and these are the facts that we americans need to know to keep this country safe. >> the president used the schooling metaphor. well, what we saw was a textbook case the other day of people speaking truth to pow...

Attorneys. he's been out there saying, you know, i won't turn on the president. being defiant. it may have come to the point where the fbi said, okay, we have a warrant. time to get him. we are not going to wait for him to come show up. what we are seeing in the amazing video from david shortell, our colleague in florida is the textbook case where you arrive in the early morning hours. they knocked, announced themselves. announced why they were there. he showed up. there was no need for them to breach the door and go find him. what's interesting is i have conducted many arrests where the goal ...

And corrupt intent to try to deter mr. cohen from telling the truth? and i hope the senate and the house, they can vote a resolution of censure, and mr. giuliani can be indicted and certainly criminally investigated for doing what he just did, that is prima facie a crime. >> former prosecutors have been very clear with us, saying that what the president and giuliani have said is a text book case of witness tampering in plain sight. as you know, the law says whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in a misleading co...

Efficient military campaign, guess what he did? he got other people to pay for it. now, i say that's a textbook case of the way to fight a war politically, diplomatically and militarily. he did other things, of course. apartheid ended on his watch. apartheid in south africa ended on president bush's watch. so many things happened. so now there are things on the domestic side, too. we can talk about those later. >> but, you know, the thing about -- what you describe, they are big accomplishments. they're all foreign policy accomplishments. he did do things domestically. but people often felt hi...

Very effective and efficient military campaign, guess what he did? he got other people to pay for it. i say that's a textbook case of the way to fight a war politically, diplomatically, and militarily. he did other things, of course. apartheid ended on his watch, on president bush's watch. so many things happened. so things on the domestic side, too. we can talk about those later. >> you know, the thing about what you describe, they are big accomplishments. they're all foreign policy accomplishments. he did do things domestically, but people often felt his heart was in foreign policy. >> hue k...