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Probe, donald trump is facin -- a key witness who is ver familiar with the january 6t insurrection, a judge ha ordered former vice presiden mike pence to testify in the special counsel's investigatio in the trump's attempt t overturn the 2020 election and this week pence confirme that he will not fight tha order, although it is stil unclear when exactly he will appear before the grand jury pence's testimony could give jack smith one of the most revealing firsthand accounts s far of trump's state of mind i the weeks after his loss to jo biden. but trump's attorneys coul still appeal the ruling,...

Abuse his power and overturn the election on january 6th. but a key part of that i knowing that he truly lost the election so i would be probing fo questions about that, about hi admissions that he didn't wi and he did miked pence t overturn the outcome of th election and the other thing that i really important here, a man is walking and mike pence to a story right now, even if h doesn't offer anything that is new and a value, what is mos important is that you talk t him so that a year for hour tw years from now, when this case goes to trial, mike penc doesn't testify until some new story that...

That the murdochs and other to executives should not be compelled to testify because o quote, hardships on thos witnesses and undue burden given their limited knowledg of print facts fox has agreed to let a number of top anchors testify including tucker carlson, sean hannity -- and there's been an interestin twist in another lawsuit against fox. -- the former fox producer wh alleges that she was coerced into giving misleading testimony at a deposition fo the dominion case has now been subpoenaed in a separate votin technology companies lawsuit against fox. renato is back with me today t discus...

With trump and his allies, and their efforts to overturn th 2020 presidential election as these charges might pile up if it does happen in georgia a well fulton county specifically, how do you see trump navigatin these cases and the 2024 presidential campaign? >> i think we have to pull bac what we think about even jus the manhattan da case. i think in a year from now we're going to be looking at these as specifically the on in new york, a piece of all th stuff going on you have the one coming in i georgia, january six committee he is facing trial coming up just in a few weeks on at th jean ca...

Next several months. based on what we see over th past two weeks reindictment an post indictment -- basically crying on tv or ru desantis or others coming to the defense of that no indicted ex president? >> yeah, it's really quite astonishing to see how this -- what is supposedly a race to win a prize and between al these candidates, every one of them sounds like they're campaigning for donald trump none of us, i've never see anything like it [inaudible -- the fact that this is unlikely [inaudible to - not expected to be in cour again till the summer. that gives him an extraordinar opportunity...