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>> david i know you spoke with prosecutors who have handled cases against trump allies particularly trump allies wh were sort of cut from the same cloth as he is, people lik roger stone, what do they tell you? what do you can extrapolat from those earlier cases i terms of how this one might go >> when trump is arraigned h will be released on bail that's normal. that's for any non violent crime. but there's a series o conditions he then agrees to with the judge he so he coul be out on bail and participate in the trial he has got to obey with th judge tells him and what happened in the roger sto...

But it is the case that it has never happened before. to your point about this now being boring, i think this goe to something you are saying. it's sort of the flip side tha we shouldn't be thinking of former president differently and because of that, the borin aspect that is about to happen which is this enormous tim delay between an indictment an a trial, is actually part of the rule of law. so for all of those people who have been waiting anxiously to see the former president hel to account, criminally, for hi conduct, part of that mean that you have to be patien because the rule of law tha...

Can i just get your kind o chris opener in terms of how much you think this changes th country, if at all >> i think it changes th country, and i think there's kind of a no going back in thi to it that i think is correct. i have to say, in this is weird to say, back to you, the monologue you did about that this is happened before, thoug not surfaced specifically th president citing the menende trial, the john edwards trial, has been the north star for me and the thing that i'm kind of holding to, almost aspirationally which is othe countries have done this, we have done it in other contexts an...

With felony tax evasion. felony tax evasion is a kind o cousin of the charge reportedly considered by the grand jury in their indictment today. it was absolutely fascinatin news when the felony tax evasion charges were announced against donald trump's business. but then, you remember wha happened thereafter? i swear you don't, because i was 16 months, 60 no new months between the announcemen of those charges in the da when they finally started to pick the jury. once they got a jury they had trial and was a long trial i those lots of testimony about, you know, alleged criminal tax fraud. and th...

Are you going to define th case you plan to bring there's a lot of things yo could file charges of. but you want to have something that's rock-solid. i think that's why you've seen jack smith, the federa prosecutor, interview, apparently, every single employee and guest a mar-a-lago who had access to donald's rooms, where they found the classified documents so, alvin bragg's is doing the same thing he's making sure that th defense witness was -- doesn't come out of nowhere an muddy the waters you want to have a very clea case and i've watched cases particularly when i wrote abou a great length...